Post by gnat on Nov 30, 2012 7:28:30 GMT -7
Its amazing to me what you find when they tear out the walls. Covered up imperfections in the framing and copper pipe that are corroding. Wiring that is seemingly in crazy places.
But here was a big problem. After the tile in the kitchen came up and the flooring in the utility/laundry room came up, these rooms are adjacent to one another, we found a big mess.
We had an SOB named Willie Nelson who was our original plumber and he was a substitute for My Contractors number one guy who was not available while we were build ing the house originally. He made a ginourmous mess which we were unaware of until stuff started leaking and breaking. I should have known it was a problem when the first shower i tried to take the water came out of the wall and not the shower head. So about 5 years ago we had a slow leak under the sink in the kitchen which we had the devil finding. Anyway all that winter water was on the floor in both rooms. When we did find the leak it was a pipe that was not soldered correctly and had finally rotted so that it was "just" dripping. Over the course of the next year all the tiles began to crack. We waited on doing anything knowing that we were going to redo the kitchen anyway.
So that brings us to a few days ago when they removed the tlles and the subfloor was buckled and black. But that wasn't the real problem it was the that the floor was drooping downwards by 1 1/4". Now that was not caused by the plumbing but by a failure 25 years ago of the framing carpenter to put in a pier in the right place. The kitchen/utility room have a load bearing wall and the wet wood caused it to sag but it would have happened anyway because the pier was absent. So now we have the big hole and the new pier has been placed and the house has been jacked up and is level again.
more coming
Gnat
But here was a big problem. After the tile in the kitchen came up and the flooring in the utility/laundry room came up, these rooms are adjacent to one another, we found a big mess.
We had an SOB named Willie Nelson who was our original plumber and he was a substitute for My Contractors number one guy who was not available while we were build ing the house originally. He made a ginourmous mess which we were unaware of until stuff started leaking and breaking. I should have known it was a problem when the first shower i tried to take the water came out of the wall and not the shower head. So about 5 years ago we had a slow leak under the sink in the kitchen which we had the devil finding. Anyway all that winter water was on the floor in both rooms. When we did find the leak it was a pipe that was not soldered correctly and had finally rotted so that it was "just" dripping. Over the course of the next year all the tiles began to crack. We waited on doing anything knowing that we were going to redo the kitchen anyway.
So that brings us to a few days ago when they removed the tlles and the subfloor was buckled and black. But that wasn't the real problem it was the that the floor was drooping downwards by 1 1/4". Now that was not caused by the plumbing but by a failure 25 years ago of the framing carpenter to put in a pier in the right place. The kitchen/utility room have a load bearing wall and the wet wood caused it to sag but it would have happened anyway because the pier was absent. So now we have the big hole and the new pier has been placed and the house has been jacked up and is level again.
more coming
Gnat
